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WHAT’S NEW:

• Please note this website’s email address has changed, it is now:

DebunkingPrimalTherapy@yahoo.com

• “YOUR STORIES 1” has a new story written by a person who was a primal therapy participant in both California and New York in the 1970s and 1980s - someone who became a trainee and primal therapist. 
• Also on that same page, there is a newish story from a different source that serves as confirmational evidence for R.D. Rosen’s account of a primal therapy case in the book Psychobabble.  (Click here to go to the CRITICAL BOOKS subsection with quotations from Psychobabble).

• An excellent article from the European Journal of American Studies called “Up Against the Wall: Primal Therapy and ‘the Sixties’,” is available here:  http://ejas.revues.org/document3022.html .  It is now linked to in the CRITICAL WEBSITES / ARTICLES section.

• The Evolution of Feelings page has now a new subsection which examines the validity of Janov’s view of evolution by looking at quotations from the 1980 book Prisoners of Pain.  This addition improves this section from what was a relatively weak and quickly written page into a much better article.  The analysis of Janov’s position, following Janov’s own logic from faulty premises, leads to the inevitable conclusion: ”That would make him perhaps the greatest thinker and discoverer the world has ever seen.” 

•  “Science : Conjectures and Refutations” by Karl Popper has been added to the falsifiability section in adobe pdf format. Also added is a short summary of the paper in a word document.  Also added on this page is a new sub-section called “Falsifiability in Diagnosis.”

• The Humor section has changed a little.

• There is a new sub-section in CRITICAL BOOKS with quotations from the book Catharsis in Psychotherapy,(1977) by Micheal P Nichols Ph.D. and Melvin Zax Ph.D. which includes the quotation:        

“some of Janov’s patients report his approach as an intolerable emotional brainwashing.” (p. 141)

• As well as the website’s new look, a feature is now on here that allows the reader to search the site. In addition, you can preview websites just by rolling over the links. You can even view the YouTube links without leaving this website; just point on the link, and press the play button. 

• The website http://pillsworld.blogspot.com contains six articles under the “primal therapy” category that are concise, well-done and skeptical of primal therapy.  The articles have been linked to in the sections: LENNON ARTICLE, CRITICAL WEBSITES and CHECKING THE SCIENCE.

“Scientific knowledge is public in a special sense…scientific knowledge does not exist solely in the mind of a particular individual. In an important sense, scientific knowledge does not exist at all until it has been submitted to the scientific community for criticism and empirical testing by others.”

How To Think Straight About Psychology(p. 10).  Keith Stanovich (6th Ed, 2001). (see PEER REVIEW section).

“Social psychology is filled with data showing that once a person makes a commitment in front of others about a position or belief; it is more likely that the person will cling to that position.  Imagine the degree of commitment made by the people you met in this chapter: at their therapist’s command, they rolled and moaned, beat cushions…screamed, yelled, laughed, cried, insulted others, and were themselves humiliated and insulted.”

“Crazy” Therapies (p. 130), Margaret Singer Ph.D. and Janja Lalich Ph.D., (1996) (see CRITICAL BOOKS section)

“Many teachers lament the woeful lack of science education of their undergraduate students…This problem is also widespread in graduate clinical psychology programs and psychiatric residencies, where students can earn a PhD or an MD without ever having considered the basic epistemological assumptions and methods of their profession…[In a study of psychiatrist training] rarely do they learn to be skeptical, ask questions, analyse research, or consider alternative explanations or treatments.” (page xi)

[In the footnote it is noted that not all clinical psychologists are poor scientists]

“By the 1960s and 1970s, as the popularity of psychoanalysis was waning, new therapies were emerging.  It was easy to tell how pseudoscientific they were…Martin Gross’s book The Psychological Society (1978) included …,primal scream therapy,…” (page xiii)

 Science and Pseudoscience in Clinical Psychology, (edited by Lilienfeld, Lynn, Lohr) from the foreword essay “The Widening Scientist-Practitioner Gap,” written by social psychologist Carol Tavris, Ph.D.

For a review of this book by Professor Colin Feltham, see the The Counselling Center website.

What gets us into trouble

is not what we don’t know  

It’s what we know for sure  

That just ain’t so

- Mark Twain

     This is a website designed to give a detailed and well researched criticism and evaluation of primal therapy.  It is a critique on the treatment and theory which was first developed and popularized by Arthur Janov (Ph.D.).

     It is written with the protections of the U.S. Constitution’s first amendment (free speech and press) and the accepted rule in western science that theories and treatments can be criticized. These rights cannot be abridged by any means, including by Strategic Lawsuits Against Public Participation (SLAPP lawsuits, see http://www.gjs.net/web-slap.htm ).

    The idea for the first article was originally inspired by social psychology and the widely accepted standards and rules of science (vs. pseudoscience). That article turned into sections 1 to 5 on this website. Then the website was created to provide a place for counterpoint information on primal therapy. Since then, other sources and evidence has also been drawn on. The aim is to show people what information is out there, and let them discover it for themselves, and decide for themselves.  This critique and sharing of information is designed to make a positive constructive contribution and to help people.

     Although it was not part of the original plan for this site, in response to requests from some readers this website grew to include more testimonial type evidence.  Included are personal experiences of primal therapy, from more than one source, to further inform the potential consumer.  However, those sections are not necessarily the most important on the site (the section on falsifiability I think is more important for example) and I suggest reading section 5 on how to weight testimonial evidence before reading those parts.

     This website will protect primal participant’s confidentiality while still informing future potential consumers.

     This website in essence acts like the dissenting voice within the isolated in-group in the Asch experiments: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6LH10-3H8k

     On this website there are still some incomplete sections, and due to other commitments it may remain that way for some time. The priority is to get some of the information out there to stimulate critical thinking and to show in which subject areas you can find further information. 

 ”We have come to claim our promise, O Oz.”

 ”What promise?” asked Oz.

The Wonderful Wizard of Oz, the book written by Frank Baum.

 Pseudoscience begins with a hypothesis—usually one which is appealing emotionally…—and then looks only for items which appear to support it. Conflicting evidence is ignored. Generally speaking, the aim of pseudoscience is to rationalize strongly held beliefs, rather than to investigate and find out what’s actually going on, or to test various possibilities. Pseudoscience specializes in jumping to ‘congenial conclusions,’ grinding ideological axes, appealing to pre-conceived ideas and to widespread misunderstandings.

From the website International Cultic Studies Association: http://www.csj.org/studyindex/studycrthk/study_pseddoscience/study_factpseudo.htm

(see sections 2-5 and DETECTING REAL SCIENCE for more on what is called the demarcation problem - the distinguishing between science and pseudoscience)

In general, if your therapist is telling you that you have to get worse before you get better, is tearing you apart rather than building you up, is letting group members insult and ridicule you, is insisting that you must go deeper and deeper and deeper to feel the feeling, or is doing anything that smacks of old-fashioned ventilation theories, get out as fast as you can and look for a supportive therapist who will listen and respond with human decency.

“Crazy” Therapies (p. 131), Singer and Lalich, (1996).

When you are studying any matter…

Never let yourself be diverted either by what you wish to believe, or

by what you think would have beneficial social effects if it were believed.

Look only and solely at what are the facts.

Bertrand Russell, 1959

From the mathematician and philosopher’s 1959 “Face to Face” BBC interview, now on YouTube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7I9pgqiLo0&feature=related 

(The quoted part starts around 7min 38sec - in the last quarter of the video)

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